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		<title>CvaroUc4tr at 09:55, 22 May 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-05-22T09:55:15Z</updated>

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		<author><name>CvaroUc4tr</name></author>
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		<title>Drorbn: Reverted edits by LazelRacda (Talk); changed back to last version by Drorbn</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-18T12:09:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Reverted edits by &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Special:Contributions/LazelRacda&quot; title=&quot;Special:Contributions/LazelRacda&quot;&gt;LazelRacda&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=User_talk:LazelRacda&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;User talk:LazelRacda (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/a&gt;); changed back to last version by &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/User:Drorbn&quot; title=&quot;User:Drorbn&quot;&gt;Drorbn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>LazelRacda: zelracch</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-18T11:41:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;zelracch&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Drorbn at 19:50, 3 May 2007</title>
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		<updated>2007-05-03T19:50:38Z</updated>

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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The multivariable Alexander polynomial is zero precisely when &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;H1&lt;/del&gt; of the universal &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;abelian&lt;/del&gt; cover has non-zero rank (as a module over the group-ring of covering transformations).  Equivalently, if &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;H2&lt;/del&gt; of the universal &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;abelian&lt;/del&gt; cover is non-trivial.  In the L10n36 case, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;H2&lt;/del&gt; is free on one generator, which is represented by a map of a genus 2 surface into the link complement.  So far I haven&#039;t found a very appealing description of this surface, but it&#039;s there... -&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ryan&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;budney&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The multivariable Alexander polynomial is zero precisely when &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;H_1&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt; of the universal &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Abelian&lt;/ins&gt; cover has non-zero rank (as a module over the group-ring of covering transformations).  Equivalently, if &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;H_2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt; of the universal &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Abelian&lt;/ins&gt; cover is non-trivial.  In the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;L10n36&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/ins&gt; case, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;H_2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt; is free on one generator, which is represented by a map of a genus 2 surface into the link complement.  So far I haven&#039;t found a very appealing description of this surface, but it&#039;s there... -&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Ryan&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Budney&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>Rybu at 18:17, 13 April 2007</title>
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		<updated>2007-04-13T18:17:54Z</updated>

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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The multivariable Alexander polynomial is zero precisely when H1 of the universal abelian cover has non-zero rank (as a module over the group-ring of covering transformations).  Equivalently, if H2 of the universal abelian cover is non-trivial.  In &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;this&lt;/del&gt; case, H2 is free on one generator, which is represented by a map of a genus 2 surface into the link complement.  So far I haven&#039;t found a very appealing description of this surface, but it&#039;s there... -ryan budney&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The multivariable Alexander polynomial is zero precisely when H1 of the universal abelian cover has non-zero rank (as a module over the group-ring of covering transformations).  Equivalently, if H2 of the universal abelian cover is non-trivial.  In &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the L10n36&lt;/ins&gt; case, H2 is free on one generator, which is represented by a map of a genus 2 surface into the link complement.  So far I haven&#039;t found a very appealing description of this surface, but it&#039;s there... -ryan budney&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>Rybu</name></author>
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		<title>Rybu at 18:12, 13 April 2007</title>
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		<updated>2007-04-13T18:12:22Z</updated>

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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The multivariable Alexander polynomial is zero precisely when H1 of the universal abelian cover has non-zero rank (as a module over the group-ring of covering transformations).  Equivalently, if H2 of the universal abelian cover is non-trivial.  In this case, H2 is free on one generator, which is represented by a map of a genus 2 surface into the link complement.  So far I haven&#039;t found a very appealing description of this surface, but it&#039;s there...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The multivariable Alexander polynomial is zero precisely when H1 of the universal abelian cover has non-zero rank (as a module over the group-ring of covering transformations).  Equivalently, if H2 of the universal abelian cover is non-trivial.  In this case, H2 is free on one generator, which is represented by a map of a genus 2 surface into the link complement.  So far I haven&#039;t found a very appealing description of this surface, but it&#039;s there...&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; -ryan budney&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>Rybu</name></author>
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		<title>Rybu: comment</title>
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		<updated>2007-04-13T18:11:40Z</updated>

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Regarding this comment:&lt;br /&gt;
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:Dror doesn&amp;#039;t understand the multivariable Alexander polynomial well enough to give simple topological reasons for the vanishing of the said polynomial for these knots.&lt;br /&gt;
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The multivariable Alexander polynomial is zero precisely when H1 of the universal abelian cover has non-zero rank (as a module over the group-ring of covering transformations).  Equivalently, if H2 of the universal abelian cover is non-trivial.  In this case, H2 is free on one generator, which is represented by a map of a genus 2 surface into the link complement.  So far I haven&amp;#039;t found a very appealing description of this surface, but it&amp;#039;s there...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Rybu</name></author>
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