Talk:9 1 Quick Notes

Nonoil - Nonafoil.

Linguistically, should be more like "nonafoil" ... AnonMoos 08:43, 1 February 2010 (EST)

I agree. Yet at the time - a few years ago - I web-searched for the name, and only found nonoil. By now I have forgotten where I've found the name, and by now the presence of "nonoil" on the knot atlas corrupts the search - google comes up with nonoil at the knot atlas, and if we see nonoil elsewhere, we cannot know if it is "genuine" or copied from us. Likewise for the septoil. Drorbn 06:59, 2 February 2010 (EST)

This search [1] is the best I could find, and it almost entirely turns up references to "non-oil" (i.e. non-petroleum), so I'm having great difficulty determining how many of the search hits are references to knots at all... AnonMoos 12:51, 2 February 2010 (EST)

Hmmm. The top result on your search, [2], may well have been my original source. it seems familiar, and the date of last change on that page is November 15, 2002 9:46:38 AM, which is before I started working on the knot atlas. Drorbn 06:39, 3 February 2010 (EST)

OK, as nearly as I can deduce without going through a lot of irrelevant links about "non-petroleum" and abbreviated "September oil", "Septoil" and "Nonoil" are not very solidly-established terminology, while "Septafoil" and "Nonafoil" appear a number of times on-line with the meaning of a seven- or nine-petalled flower, and "Septemfoil" (with an "m") is listed in the OED (again with the meaning of a seven-petalled flower) but does not get many Google hits. I would advise dumping Septoil and Nonoil unless more specific evidence can be found that they're somewhat accepted or standard usage. AnonMoos 21:55, 3 February 2010 (EST)