8 5

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8_4

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8_6

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8 5 is also known as the pretzel knot P(3,3,2).


Symmetric alternative representation
Pretzel P(3,3,2) form Photo 01-09-2017 besalu.jpg.
Sum of 8.5 ; church of Besalu, Catalogna

Knot presentations

Planar diagram presentation X6271 X8493 X2837 X14,10,15,9 X12,5,13,6 X4,13,5,14 X16,12,1,11 X10,16,11,15
Gauss code 1, -3, 2, -6, 5, -1, 3, -2, 4, -8, 7, -5, 6, -4, 8, -7
Dowker-Thistlethwaite code 6 8 12 2 14 16 4 10
Conway Notation [3,3,2]


Minimum Braid Representative A Morse Link Presentation An Arc Presentation
BraidPart1.gifBraidPart1.gifBraidPart1.gifBraidPart0.gifBraidPart1.gifBraidPart1.gifBraidPart1.gifBraidPart0.gif
BraidPart2.gifBraidPart2.gifBraidPart2.gifBraidPart3.gifBraidPart2.gifBraidPart2.gifBraidPart2.gifBraidPart3.gif
BraidPart0.gifBraidPart0.gifBraidPart0.gifBraidPart4.gifBraidPart0.gifBraidPart0.gifBraidPart0.gifBraidPart4.gif

Length is 8, width is 3,

Braid index is 3

8 5 ML.gif 8 5 AP.gif
[{6, 11}, {1, 10}, {11, 9}, {10, 4}, {8, 3}, {9, 7}, {5, 8}, {4, 2}, {3, 6}, {2, 5}, {7, 1}]

[edit Notes on presentations of 8 5]

Knot 8_5.
A graph, knot 8_5.

Three dimensional invariants

Symmetry type Reversible
Unknotting number 2
3-genus 3
Bridge index 3
Super bridge index Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle \{4,6\}}
Nakanishi index 1
Maximal Thurston-Bennequin number [1][-11]
Hyperbolic Volume 6.99719
A-Polynomial See Data:8 5/A-polynomial

[edit Notes for 8 5's three dimensional invariants]

Four dimensional invariants

Smooth 4 genus Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle 2}
Topological 4 genus Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle 2}
Concordance genus Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle 3}
Rasmussen s-Invariant -4

[edit Notes for 8 5's four dimensional invariants]

Polynomial invariants

Alexander polynomial Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle -t^3+3 t^2-4 t+5-4 t^{-1} +3 t^{-2} - t^{-3} }
Conway polynomial Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle -z^6-3 z^4-z^2+1}
2nd Alexander ideal (db, data sources) Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle \{1\}}
Determinant and Signature { 21, 4 }
Jones polynomial Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle q^8-2 q^7+3 q^6-4 q^5+3 q^4-3 q^3+3 q^2-q+1}
HOMFLY-PT polynomial (db, data sources) Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle -z^6 a^{-4} +z^4 a^{-2} -5 z^4 a^{-4} +z^4 a^{-6} +4 z^2 a^{-2} -8 z^2 a^{-4} +3 z^2 a^{-6} +4 a^{-2} -5 a^{-4} +2 a^{-6} }
Kauffman polynomial (db, data sources) Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle z^7 a^{-3} +z^7 a^{-5} +z^6 a^{-2} +4 z^6 a^{-4} +3 z^6 a^{-6} -3 z^5 a^{-3} +z^5 a^{-5} +4 z^5 a^{-7} -5 z^4 a^{-2} -15 z^4 a^{-4} -7 z^4 a^{-6} +3 z^4 a^{-8} -10 z^3 a^{-5} -8 z^3 a^{-7} +2 z^3 a^{-9} +8 z^2 a^{-2} +15 z^2 a^{-4} +4 z^2 a^{-6} -2 z^2 a^{-8} +z^2 a^{-10} +3 z a^{-3} +7 z a^{-5} +4 z a^{-7} -4 a^{-2} -5 a^{-4} -2 a^{-6} }
The A2 invariant Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle 1+ q^{-2} +2 q^{-4} +2 q^{-6} -3 q^{-12} - q^{-14} - q^{-16} + q^{-20} + q^{-24} }
The G2 invariant Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle q^{-2} +3 q^{-6} -2 q^{-8} +2 q^{-10} + q^{-12} -2 q^{-14} +7 q^{-16} -5 q^{-18} +5 q^{-20} + q^{-22} -2 q^{-24} +8 q^{-26} -5 q^{-28} +5 q^{-30} +2 q^{-32} -2 q^{-34} +3 q^{-36} -3 q^{-38} +2 q^{-42} -4 q^{-44} +2 q^{-46} -4 q^{-48} -2 q^{-50} +2 q^{-52} -9 q^{-54} +4 q^{-56} -7 q^{-58} + q^{-62} -7 q^{-64} +7 q^{-66} -7 q^{-68} +4 q^{-70} +2 q^{-72} -5 q^{-74} +5 q^{-76} -2 q^{-78} + q^{-80} +4 q^{-82} -2 q^{-84} +3 q^{-86} + q^{-88} - q^{-90} +4 q^{-92} -4 q^{-94} +3 q^{-96} -2 q^{-100} +3 q^{-102} -3 q^{-104} +3 q^{-106} - q^{-108} + q^{-110} -3 q^{-114} +2 q^{-116} -2 q^{-118} +2 q^{-120} - q^{-122} - q^{-128} + q^{-130} - q^{-132} + q^{-134} }

"Similar" Knots (within the Atlas)

Same Alexander/Conway Polynomial: {10_141,}

Same Jones Polynomial (up to mirroring, Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle q\leftrightarrow q^{-1}} ): {}

Vassiliev invariants

V2 and V3: (-1, -3)
V2,1 through V6,9:
V2,1 V3,1 V4,1 V4,2 V4,3 V5,1 V5,2 V5,3 V5,4 V6,1 V6,2 V6,3 V6,4 V6,5 V6,6 V6,7 V6,8 V6,9
Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle -4} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle -24} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle 8} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle -\frac{62}{3}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle \frac{86}{3}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle 96} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle 208} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle 96} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle 104} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle -\frac{32}{3}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle 288} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle \frac{248}{3}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle -\frac{344}{3}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle \frac{31409}{30}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle \frac{834}{5}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle \frac{16618}{45}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle \frac{2095}{18}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle -\frac{1231}{30}}

V2,1 through V6,9 were provided by Petr Dunin-Barkowski <barkovs@itep.ru>, Andrey Smirnov <asmirnov@itep.ru>, and Alexei Sleptsov <sleptsov@itep.ru> and uploaded on October 2010 by User:Drorbn. Note that they are normalized differently than V2 and V3.

Khovanov Homology

The coefficients of the monomials Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle t^rq^j} are shown, along with their alternating sums Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle \chi} (fixed Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle j} , alternation over Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle r} ). The squares with yellow highlighting are those on the "critical diagonals", where Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle j-2r=s+1} or Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle j-2r=s-1} , where Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle s=} 4 is the signature of 8 5. Nonzero entries off the critical diagonals (if any exist) are highlighted in red.   
\ r
  \  
j \
-2-10123456χ
17        11
15       1 -1
13      21 1
11     21  -1
9    12   -1
7   22    0
5  11     0
3 13      2
1         0
-11        1
Integral Khovanov Homology

(db, data source)

  
Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle \dim{\mathcal G}_{2r+i}\operatorname{KH}^r_{\mathbb Z}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle i=3} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle i=5}
Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle r=-2} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}}
Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle r=-1} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}_2} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}}
Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle r=0} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}^{3}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}}
Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle r=1} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}\oplus{\mathbb Z}_2^{2}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}^{2}}
Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle r=2} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}^{2}\oplus{\mathbb Z}_2} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}}
Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle r=3} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}^{2}\oplus{\mathbb Z}_2^{2}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}^{2}}
Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle r=4} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}\oplus{\mathbb Z}_2^{2}} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}^{2}}
Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle r=5} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}\oplus{\mathbb Z}_2} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}}
Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle r=6} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}_2} Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle {\mathbb Z}}

The Coloured Jones Polynomials